Dear Dogan,

Thanks for stopping by our site.

You wrote:

> Hello. After looking around on your site I have come to the conclusion
> that the "narrow gate" is indeed incredibly narrow!!!


It is indeed.

> I sense a lot of "hatred" in your words.
...
> Just thought I should write and tell you that "Christians" need to
> witness with love and in humbleness.


Consider: If a doctor knows his patient has a deadly disease and knows the cure, is it hatred for that doctor to tell that person he has a deadly disease and tell him the cure? No. It is love. It would be hatred for the doctor to tell the patient that everything is okay. It would be hatred for me to tell an unregenerate person that everything is okay with his soul. It is loving for me to tell him that he is unregenerate and needs to repent and believe the gospel.

Anyone who believes that Jesus died for everyone without exception does not believe the gospel. All who believe the gospel believe that it is the work of Christ alone that makes the difference between salvation and damnation. Those who believe that Jesus died for everyone without exception DO NOT believe that it is the work of Christ alone that makes the difference between salvation and damnation; instead, they believe that it is the work and effort of the SINNER that makes the difference. They do not believe that Christ's work on the cross actually accomplished remission, redemption, and propitiation for anyone in and of itself. Please see

www.outsidethecamp.org/gospatone.htm.

> I hope I am mistaken. God
> saves who He will. This I agree with. God does not want any to perish
> but all to come to the truth. If that passage were talking about God's
> elect it would say just that. On the contrary it says "all men".


You are not familiar with your Bible (unless you have a Bible that is not true to the original). Where in this passage does it say "all men"?

In the KJV, 2 Peter 3:9 says, "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." Where's "all men"?

In the LITV, 2 Peter 3:9 says, "The Lord of the promise is not slow, as some deem slowness, but is long-suffering toward us, not having purposed any to perish, but all to come to repentance." Where's "all men"?

To whom is the Lord longsuffering? To "US." Who is US? Is it everyone without exception? To whom is 2 Peter written? See 2 Peter 1:1-4. God is not willing that any of US should perish, but that all of US should come to repentance. He is not willing that any of HIS PEOPLE should perish, but that all of HIS PEOPLE should come to repentance.

Now think about it: If this passage meant that God isn't willing that ANYONE AT ALL should perish, then what does that say about your god when SOME DO perish? It says that your god is a helpless idol who cannot fulfill what he desires. He desires that everyone should come to repentance, but some do not. He is an eternally disappointed little god who cannot bring about what he wishes. Poor little god. He's hoping and hoping and hoping that everyone will be saved, but some people end up in hell anyway, against his wishes.

Also, look at the context of the passage. What is the "promise" in 2 Peter 3:9? It is the promise of the second coming (2 Peter 3:4). The Lord has not returned yet because of his longsuffering toward His people, because He is not willing that any of His people will perish. As soon as the last one of His people comes to repentance, the Lord will return. If the Lord has not returned because He is not willing that everyone without exception should perish, then the Lord would NEVER return!

When you talk of "all men," perhaps you are thinking about 1 Timothy 2:3-4. This, too, is easy to understand if you look at the context. Look at verses 1 and 2: Paul exhorts that prayers be made for "all men" -- for those in all kinds of positions in society. This is the same as the "all men" in verse 4. If you would look at what the "all" means in the Greek, it actually means "all kinds of." God desires all kinds of men to come to a knowledge of the truth -- and He is NEVER frustrated, because He is GOD, who does everything that He pleases (Psalm 115:3).

To God alone be the glory,

Marc D. Carpenter


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