I have occasionally been asked about Greg Elmquist.

Here is an e-mail I sent to him:

==Dear Mr. Elmquist:

I have visited your web site and have some comments:

(1) I see that Bruce Crabtree is one of the pastors who preaches at your conference. I have heard that Crabtree, while he was a pastor, spoke peace to his Arminian father as well as other Arminians and those who did not believe the true gospel. Do you know about this? If so, do you believe that Crabtree was unregenerate when he did this?

(2) I looked at some of your bulletins and see quotes from Spurgeon. Do you know that Spurgeon considered some Arminians to be saved? If so, do you believe that Spurgeon was an unregenerate man?

(3) In your bulletins, there are quotes from compromisers such as Henry Mahan, Joe Terrell, and Maurice Montgomery. Mahan said he could make a good case for some Arminians being saved. Joe Terrell actually corresponded with me a long time ago and wrote an article that appears on the Sound of Grace web site against our newsletter:

www.soundofgrace.com/sep97/outcamp.htm . As you probably know, "Sound of Grace" is the web site of John Reisinger, who considers Arminians to be his brothers in Christ. What do you believe about Mahan, Terrell, Montgomery, and Reisinger?

I look forward to hearing from you.

To God alone be the glory,

Marc D. Carpenter

www.outsidethecamp.org==

Elmquist never wrote back.

Another man wrote the following to Elmquist:

==Do you agree with these 9 statements that Marc Carpenter said:

(1) All who believe a false gospel are not saved.

(2) Arminianism is a false gospel.

(3) Thus, all who believe Arminianism are not saved.


(1) The gospel is God's promise to save His people conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed righteousness of Christ alone.

(2) Every regenerate person believes the gospel.

(3) It is not possible for a regenerate person to confess a false gospel.

(4) All who believe that Jesus Christ died for everyone without exception (universal atonement) are unregenerate.

(5) All who believe that universal atonement advocates are saved are unregenerate (including those who say they believed universal atonement for a time after they were regenerated).

(6) God is not gracious toward and does not desire the salvation of the reprobate.

?==


Elmquist replied:


==Hope you guys can get over for the conference next weekend.

As for Mark Carpenter, I don't know him personally. I have received e-mails from him over the years. He seems to always want to argue doctrine. I had my fill of that in reformed religion. He has accused good men, that I know preach Christ, as not being gospel preachers. I just don't respond to him.==

So he refused to answer the questions and instead just focused on me. And who are these "good men" whom Elmquist knows are gospel preachers that I have accused? I asked Elmquist, and he never replied. But I think I know some of them, such as Crabtree, Spurgeon, Mahan, Terrell, Montgomery, and Fortner. Another person with whom I corresponded forwarded me an e-mail he got from Elmquist:

==Don Fortner is a friend of mine. I just this morning had breakfast with him at a conference in Cherokee, North Carolina. He
brought two messages that blessed my heart. ... He has a sincere love for Christ==

Elmquist has been a regular at Don Fortner's conference. Here is the announcement for the 2002 conference:

==August 30 -September 1, 2002

23rd Annual Sovereign Grace Bible Conference

Dear Friends,

The Lord willing, Grace Baptist Church of Danville, Kentucky will host our 23rd Annual Sovereign Grace Bible Conference on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, August 30-September 1, 2002. We want you to attend.

I have asked eight faithful pastors, men who preach the gospel of God's free and sovereign grace in Christ, to join us for this time of worship through the preaching of the gospel. I am confident that each of them will seek and bring us a message from the Lord our God that will challenge, comfort, and encourage us in the knowledge of our God and exalt him in the fullness of his redemptive glory and grace in Christ Jesus. We will be blessed by their ministry to us. As always, the theme of our conference will be the gospel of God's free and sovereign grace in Christ. Our object is to exalt the Lord Jesus Christ, instruct eternity bound sinners in the way of life, and promote the preaching of the gospel.

The ladies of our church family will provide meals immediately following each of our worship services.

Also, we will have a well staffed nursery for infants and toddlers. Mothers, your cooperation here will be greatly appreciated. I must insist that all children three and under stay in the nursery during all services. However, because we lack the needed facilities, I must also insist that no children over four be permitted to stay in the nursery.
We look forward to seeing you in Danville on Friday, August 30th. Services will begin promptly at 7:00 P.M. If you need additional information about the conference, please feel free to write or call me. I am yours in the blessed fellowship of our Lord Jesus Christ and his gospel,

By God's Sovereign Grace,

Donald S. Fortner, Pastor

SCHEDULE OF SERVICES

FRIDAY - AUGUST 30TH

7:00 P.M. Tim James, Pastor
Sequoyah Baptist Church, Cherokee, NC
8:00 P.M. Daniel Parks, Pastor
Redeemer Baptist Church, Louisville, KY

SATURDAY - August 31st

10:00 A.M. Milton Howard, Pastor
Kitchens Creek Baptist Church, Ball, LA
11:00 A.M. Greg Elmquist, Pastor
Grace Gospel Church, Orlando, FL
6:00 P.M. Maurice Montgomery, Pastor
Bible Baptist Church, Madisonville, KY
7:00 P.M. Todd Nibert, Pastor
Todds Road Grace Church, Lexington, KY

SUNDAY - SEPTEMBER 1st

10:00 A.M. Rupert Rivenbark, Pastor
Bethel Baptist Church, Spring Lake, NC
11:00 A.M. Jim Byrd, Pastor
First Baptist Church, Almont, MI

GRACE BAPTIST CHURCH of DANVILLE

2734 Old Stanford Road
Danville, Kentucky 40422-9438 USA
Donald S. Fortner, Pastor
Telephone 859-236-8235
E-mail
grace@mis.net==

As an aside, note that Fortner not only allows parents to abdicate their responsibility to their young children by providing a staffed nursery for them, but he demands that all children under three stay in the nursery! To people like Fortner (and many of the "Calvinistic Baptists"), young children are just a bother; they're just things that get in the way that you toss aside when you want to "really worship" without distraction. And, of course, these Baptists believe that young children are unable to believe anyway, so why do they need to be in the worship service to begin with?

And finally, here's a quote from Elmquist's article on Assurance of Salvation:

==Do you believe, with one hundred percent certainty that you are saved? Now before we cause more unbelief and lack of assurance than already exist, let us considers the premise of that question. I hope you are saying; 'Well I thought I was until you ask that question.' The truth is, it is a bad question. The honest soul will have nothing but doubts trying to answer it. Knowing their own capacity to deceive themselves, they will be caused to say with the disciples; 'Lord is it I.'==

This is a blatant promotion of the heresy that Christians can and do doubt their salvation -- "'Well I thought I was until you ask that question' ... The honest soul will have nothing but doubts trying to answer it. Knowing their own capacity to deceive themselves ..." It's the same old "deceitful heart" heresy.


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