To Jason Wallace:

I hear you've been slandering me. Let me address some of your slander.

You said I have "followers." I have no followers. I have brothers and sisters in Christ who follow Christ and Him alone.

You said I "splinter true churches." I have never done such a thing.

You said I am "schismatic." I promote unity among Christians.

You said I "declare everyone else apostate." I have done no such thing.

You said I "consign everyone else to Hell." I have never consigned anyone to Hell.

You said that I believe that there are only "a dozen or so true believers in the world." I do not believe this and have never believed this.

You said that I believe that "[I] alone [am] God's true prophet." I do not believe this and have never believed this.

You said, "He doesn't need actual proof texts." My writings are full of proof texts.

You said I "share the gospel with hardly anyone." I share the gospel every opportunity I get. I share the gospel with people in my own community face-to-face and with people around the world via e-mail on a regular basis.

Obviously, you have no concern for the truth. You make me out to be some kind of cult leader who "has followers" and who believes that "[I] alone [am] God's true prophet." You are a liar.

I am a simple man, a husband and father, with weaknesses and sins like everyone else, who desires to proclaim the true gospel of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ alone. I do not desire a following. I desire to obey God out of love for Him who saved me.

And what about you, liar? Do you believe and proclaim the true gospel? You believe that it is possible that some universal atonement advocates believe the true gospel. What does this say about what you believe about the gospel? Obviously, you believe that THE Atonement, the efficacious atonement of Jesus Christ that actually ATONED, is not an essential part of the gospel. You believe a false gospel, just like your universal atonement brothers in Satan.

You say that you cannot judge people to be unregenerate. Obviously, then, you cannot obey God's command not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers, because you cannot be sure who the unbelievers are.

Repent of your evil deeds and believe the true gospel wherein the righteousness of God is revealed. The true gospel is God's promise of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ alone. All who believe the true gospel believe that it is the work of Jesus Christ alone that makes the difference between salvation and damnation. They recognize that any who believe a "gospel" of salvation conditioned on the sinner, in which it is the work of the sinner that makes the difference between salvation and damnation, are believers in a false gospel and are unregenerate.

You want proof texts? Read the series of sermons on the gospel at www.outsidethecamp.org/sermons.htm . Read the exegesis of 2 John 11 at www.outsidethecamp.org/2John11.htm . Read "Gospel Atonement" at www.outsidethecamp.org/gospatone.htm . Read "Righteous Judgment" at www.outsidethecamp.org/rightjudg.htm . I seriously doubt that you'll read any of these things, but in giving you these things, you have been left without excuse.

You are a self-righteous religionist. Your deeds are evil. You are bringing forth dead works and fruit unto death. May God have mercy on your soul.

To God alone be the glory,

Marc D. Carpenter

"Those who forsake the law praise the wicked, but those who keep the law strive with them." (Proverbs 28:4)


My, my! Well, well, well! Jason Wallace, the person who says he doesn't judge anyone's heart, has judged me to be a wolf! What a hypocrite you are! What is a wolf other than an unsaved person? Or do you actually believe that there are wolves who are saved?

And you say that I'm a liar because I said that you believe that THE Atonement, the efficacious atonement of Jesus Christ that actually ATONED, is not an essential part of the gospel. Okay, let's take a look at it to see if I'm a liar or if you're a liar. You believe that Dave Hunt, who believes that Jesus Christ died for everyone without exception, who DENIES the atonement (the efficacious atonement of Jesus Christ), who OPENLY REPUDIATES efficacious atonement, who openly believes that it is not the work of Christ alone that makes the difference between salvation and damnation, STILL BELIEVES THE GOSPEL. Is this true, or is it not? If it is not, then do you believe that there are some saved people who do not believe the gospel? That would be the only other alternative.

Assuming that you believe that all saved people believe the gospel, let's consider what you believe about the gospel in light of your view that it is possible that Dave Hunt is a saved person:

(1) You believe that some who believe universal atonement are saved. (2) You believe that all saved people believe the gospel. Thus, (3) You believe that some who believe universal atonement believe the gospel.

What does this show about your belief about the gospel? Since you believe a person can believe the gospel and believe universal atonement at the same time, then you must believe that the gospel does not include the efficacious atonement of Jesus Christ. You have just denied the very heart of the gospel. If my logic is wrong, show me how it is wrong.

Finally, consider the following logic: (1) All who believe a false gospel of salvation conditioned on the sinner are unsaved. (2) Universal atonement is a false gospel of salvation conditioned on the sinner. Thus, (3) all who believe universal atonement are unsaved. You and every person who would consider at least some universal atonement advocates to be regenerate MUST disagree with #3. And the only way you can disagree with #3 is if you disagree with at least one of the first two statements. Do you disagree with #1? That would mean that you believe that at least some who believe a false gospel of salvation conditioned on the sinner are saved. Do you disagree with #2? That would mean that you believe that universal atonement is not a false gospel of salvation conditioned on the sinner. Which one do you disagree with?

You make an accusation that I label all infralapsarians enemies of the cross. Please provide proof of that accusation. Please provide a quote in which I said this. If you cannot, you are a slanderer.

Regarding your other requests: I do not know of any denomination that is a true denomination of Jesus Christ. I would love to find one. I do know of other assemblies that I believe are true assemblies of Jesus Christ. I think there are about 50 of them that I know of. But I'm sure there are many more that I don't know of. As far as our assembly goes, we have nine people in our assembly. I am accountable to the local assembly, and I fellowship regularly with other brothers outside our assembly who hold me accountable.

I noticed you didn't even comment on your false accusations that I declare everyone else apostate, that I consign everyone else to hell, that I believe that there are only a dozen or so true believers in the world, that I believe that I alone am God's true prophet, that I don't need actual proof texts, and that I share the gospel with hardly anyone. Of course, you can't back up your accusations with proof, because they are false, and you are a liar.

Now let's see about your most recent accusation that I'm a liar about what you believe. Prove me wrong. Go for it.

To God alone be the glory,

Marc D. Carpenter

"Those who forsake the law praise the wicked, but those who keep the law strive with them." (Proverbs 28:4)


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