Hugh,

Clever but inaccurate due to lack of parallel comparisons. I'll try to show why.

> On one side are we nasty hypercalvinists: John Robbins, myself, Gill,
> Pink, Hoeksema, Engelsma, Clark, etc. We say God loves only the elect
> only salvifically: "Jacob have I loved, and Esau have I hated."

I, too (as well as all with whom I fellowship), say that God loves only the elect only salvifically: "Jacob have I loved, and Esau have I hated." So right there, you set up a false distinction. You imply that I and those with whom I fellowship do not believe this.

> On another side is Marc Carpenter, in a league of his own, who says
> anyone who speaks peace to Arminians is a God-hater: "Jacob have I loved,
> and Esau have I hated, and I hate Jacob if he speaks peace to Esau."


Here you strongly imply that I am the only one who believes as I do. I know many people around the world who believe as I do. So there is another misrepresentation. Secondly, your characterization of the Jacob-Esau passage is not what I nor anyone with whom I fellowship believe. We believe "Jacob have I loved, and Esau have I hated." You now add in the peace-speaking part, which has no parallel comparison to the so-called "hypercalvinists" of the first paragraph. Do you believe that all who believe that Satanists are their brothers in Christ are God-haters? If so, why didn't you put something like that in your first paragraph?

> On another side are the majority of Calvinists: Westminster Sem. (Murray
> et al.), the OPC, URC, Iain Murray, Banner of Truth Trust, Modern
> Reformation, R.C. Sproul, James White, etc. They hold that God loves the
> elect salvifically and the non-elect non-salvifically: "Jacob have I
> loved particularly, and Esau have I loved generally."


Here you go back and compare the "majority of Calvinists" with the "hypercalvinists" as far as the love of God goes. The middle paragraph ("Marc Carpenter in a league of his own") is not compared to paragraphs one and three.

> On another side are Arminians: Dave Hunt, Chuck Smith, Norman Geisler, ad
> nauseam, who hold that God loves all men salvifically: "Jacob have I
> loved, and Esau have I loved, but he don't love me."


Again, you go into the salvific love of God, comparing the "Arminians" to the "majority of Calvinists" and the "hypercalvinists," while the middle paragraph ("Marc Carpenter in a league of his own") is not compared to paragraphs one, three, or four.

> Have I got it right?

Nope.

To God alone be the glory,

Marc


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