Neil said:

<<Jeremiah 31:9 "With weeping they shall come, And by supplication I will lead them; I will make them walk by streams of waters, On a straight path in which they shall not stumble; For I am a father to Israel, And Ephraim is My first-born."

Ezekiel 34:15 "I will feed My flock and I will lead them to rest," declares the Lord GOD.

John 16:13 "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.

John 17:17 "Sanctify them in the truth; Thy word is truth.

Hi I'm new to this forum -but have been observing. For me, scriptures like these {and these are only a few..} are the heart of the issue at hand. God has promised to lead His own to the truth. I know He lead me out of many false ideas and ways ,since I was a new babe in Christ . He brought His gospel to me ,after I had been in an Arminian church (yet knowing there was no harmony in their teaching with what I was getting from scripture}.

God has promised these things -and you better believe He does them. We indeed should bear with the ones who are slower in understanding,-but no regenerated sheep is going to have a problem with anything in scripture. The soil of his heart has been prepared. God's will has been made attractive to the sheep of His pasture.

Let us all proceed in the knowledge of these awesome promises -taking heed to all that the Lord and Apostles have written about teaching ,and defending the truth and handling the scriptures. I pray the Lord will use this forum to His glory. May it be for the benefit of those searching for truth.>>

Marc replies:

A pressing question is: Is there any truth that is NOT gradually obtained but is IMMEDIATELY obtained upon regeneration? Certainly there is some truth into which we grow. Yet Jesus said that all who do not believe the gospel are lost, and the Holy Spirit through Paul said that those who are ignorant of the righteousness of God (those who had zeal but not correct KNOWLEDGE) are lost. Thus, the truth of the gospel and the truth of the righteousness of God (which are one in the same; see Romans 1:16-17) are truths that are not gradually obtained. So growing from "false ideas" about the gospel to a knowledge of the true gospel is NOT something that occurs in a regenerate person. And being "slower in understanding" about the gospel doesn't make any sense in light of this, since all Christians, from newborn babes in Christ to the elders in the faith, understand the gospel. An Arminian is not a regenerate person who has some "false ideas" and is "slow in understanding"; he is an unregenerate person who has false ideas about Christ and the gospel and has NO understanding.


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